Yes, you’re absolutely right to observe a similarity — though Durkheim and Weber had fundamentally different epistemologies, both developed systematic methods for studying society. Let’s break down the convergences and contrasts between Durkheim's "Rules for Studying Social Facts" and Weber's "Verstehen & Ideal Types":
| Aspect | Durkheim | Weber | Similarity |
|---|---|---|---|
| Scientific Aim | Sociology as a science of social facts | Sociology as a science of social action | âś… Both aimed to make sociology systematic & rigorous |
| Classification | Divides social facts into material & non-material | Uses Ideal Types to classify actions (e.g., traditional, rational) | âś… Both rely on analytical categorization |
| Objectivity | Study social facts as "things" — external, measurable | Understand actions through subjective meaning, but apply objective analysis | ✅ Both stress methodological discipline, even if one is positivist, the other interpretive |
| Types/Forms | Normal vs Pathological facts | Types of rationality: value, goal, affective, traditional | âś… Both use typologies to analyze the functions or motivations of behavior |
| Explanation | Social facts explained by other social facts (not psychology) | Social action explained by meaning (not just external forces) | âś… Both reject simplistic biological or psychological explanations |
| Durkheim | Weber |
|---|---|
| Positivist → Emphasized external social constraints | Interpretivist → Emphasized internal subjective meanings |
| Social reality is objective & coercive | Social reality is constructed through meaning & understanding |
| Method: Observation, classification, separation, explanation | Method: Verstehen (interpretive understanding), Ideal Types, Causal Adequacy |
| Explanation via functionalism (what purpose a fact serves) | Explanation via interpretation (why individuals act the way they do) |
While Durkheim focused on macro, external structures, and Weber on micro, internal meanings, both recognized:
So yes — there is a methodological parallel:
Just as Durkheim classifies social facts and insists on explaining them through social causes, Weber classifies social actions and insists on explaining them through subjective meaning—but both aim for a scientific sociology grounded in method and clarity.
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